Expect a warmer-than-average spring, Weather Service says

Forecasts of little precipitation in the coming months spells trouble for drought-stricken areas. NBC News' Leanne Gregg reports.

By Douglas Main
LiveScience

Although it's still chilly throughout much of the country, spring will soon turn up the heat.

The majority of the United States will experience above-average temperatures over the next three months, said Laura Furgione, deputy director for the National Weather Service (NWS). Her remarks came during the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration's spring climate outlook briefing Thursday morning.

Drought is also expected to continue or worsen in much of the Southwest and central plains, Furgione said during the briefing. About 51 percent of the country is in moderate or worse drought, she added.

Drought, flooding, warmth
"We expect it to be drier than normal in much of the West, Rockies and Southwest, including Texas, which is unfortunate since we're looking at continued drought there," Furgione said.

At the same time, flooding is likely in various regions, with the most severe possibilities occurring in North Dakota along the Red River, she said. The upper and middle Mississippi River valley could see some flooding, worsened by melting of late season snow, she said.  

"This spring's outlook is a mixed bag of drought, flooding and warm weather," Furgione said.

The spring equinox, the official start to the season, happened yesterday (Wednesday) at 7:02 a.m. EDT (11:02 a.m. Universal Time). [Season to Season: Earth's Equinoxes & Solstices]

One factor in the season's outlook is the currently neutral El Niño-La Niña climate cycle. "It's about as neutral as I've ever seen it," said Ed O'Lenicof the NWS' Climate Prediction Center.

Severe weather, tornadoes
What the climate outlook means for this spring's tornado season is hard to say.

"Neutral conditions tend to favor slightly above-normal severe weather in the Midwest and South, but that becomes weaker as we move toward April and May," added Greg Carbin, a meteorologist with the NWS' Storm Prediction Center, in a separate interview.

There has been a slightly above-average number of tornadoes so far this year, although that's not likely to continue over the next two weeks because of cold conditions — which don't favor twisters — throughout much of the Midwest and East, Carbin said.

NOAA

NOAA's GOES-13 satellite captured this image of the Earth at the spring equinox, Wednesday morning at 7:45 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time.

Beyond two weeks, however, it's very difficult to tell whether there are likely to be above- or below-average number of tornadoes. "It's not something the science is capable of giving us," Carbin told OurAmazingPlanet. 

However, it's "a given" there will be more tornadoes in April and May, because that's when there are more tornadoes on average, he said.

But the past is a poor indicator when it comes to tornadoes. Last year the tornado season was unusually active early in the year, before trailing off through the spring and summer; by year's end, there were fewer tornadoes than ever on record, Carbin said. This stood in contrast to the previous spring, which was a record-setting year for tornadoes and the deaths and damage they caused.

The continuing drought and likelihood of increasing temperatures could create fire hazards in the Southwest. Oklahoma has already seen wildfires break out, Furgione said. Dry conditions in Florida also have led to fires, according to the National Interagency Fire Center.

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Another dry spring? Crap. There goes that grass seed I just put down. Again. Colorado's going to become part of the desert southwest at this rate.

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#1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarozmosisExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Warmer than average spring? Yeah right. 1 dergee this morning when I woke up here in central Wisconsin, 20 degrees below normal @ this time of year. One and a half foot of snow on the ground yet. However, did see a couple of Sandhill Cranes the other day, so Spring hopefully shouldn't be to far off.

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#1.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:05 PM EDT

I love how you blatantly ignore the fact that this is a conclusion from scientific research because of your bias. So smart!

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#1.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:18 PM EDT

The last five years were hotter than normal and two of those years were record setting. And still people say it isn't happening.

Sad.

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#1.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:20 PM EDT

kevin,

What are you talking about?

Don,

Right now all they have talked about is information from the last 11,000 years. That is since the last ice age. How can you draw a conclusion on data that does not take into account long range cycles? There are many orbital cycles that are 100,000 years long. There is another cycle that is 50,000 years long.

Also a higher carbon content is a lagging indicator not a leading one. There are also other gases that are 10-1000 times stronger a green house gases then CO2.

All we can do is enjoy or not enjoy the weather that we have.

  • 10 votes
#1.4 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:30 PM EDT

I don't understand: 1. Why people continue to use the "It's cold at my house, climate change must be garbage" argument, ESPECIALLY since the article itself addresses the current cold weather.

And 2: How subnormal can agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, yet deny that humans are causing climate change. We are putting massive amounts of CO2 in to the atmosphere, and you agree that it is a greenhouse gas. Conclusion: Humans are causing climate change.

  • 19 votes
#1.5 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:38 PM EDT

Humans might be one of the reasons for climate change, it that is indeed happening.

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#1.6 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:01 PM EDT

I think I will handle this year, the same as the last 50+ years. I'll deal with whatever it is. They gave Old Phil a script to read after waking him up from a deep sleep 6 weeks ago. Old man winter didn't get the eviction notice tho.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:06 PM EDT

Frugaldemocrat,

ok say we are, what do you want to do about it that is not going to directly effect the number of people that we have living on the planet?

Meaning which 4 billion people do you want to get rid off?

Carbon has a max effect to how high the temperature can go. Meaning that if you had 100 percent carbon in a box there is a max temperature that it will reach no matter how much more energy you put into it. There are other gases that have a much higher max temperature than carbon does.

Conclusion" humans are causing climate change is such an over simplification of the problem. That is my problem with that. How does that address the issue? Digging up the earth for metals to make more wind turbines that kill birds is the answer?

There are many things that we can do to lower the carbon that we are putting into the air. Many of them are simple. Instead we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off.

People like Al Gore have made it an emotional discussion instead of a logical one. Look up the waste water treatment plant in California. They are using the process to clean the sewage water not only to generate power, but to actually improve their emmissions. Things like that are what we need to do.

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#1.8 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:13 PM EDT

oz, I'm north of you and have more snow in my yard that I have had in years. I tried to make a trip to the composter and didn't make it all the way . . . .snow was just too deep to mess with. We've had heavy snows and mounds from clearing the sidewalk and drive. Yesterday was brutally cold and below zero this morning. This is the first time all winter that I completely closed my bedroom window. I generally leave it open a bit for fresh air.

This time last year I was sweating while gardening.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:23 PM EDT

what did the climatologist see when he poked his head out of the lab ?

a) longer winter

b) shorter winter

c) or the reflection of an idiot !

I'll go with "c"

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#1.10 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:32 PM EDT

jkatze, Hope the resorts Up Nort had there share of sledders this year. I know you folks have been struggling the past few years. Hopefully with all the snow the lakes will be back to normal. Looking foward to some good musky fishing this year with proper lake levels. Take care.

    #1.11 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:42 PM EDT

    subnormal:

    Congratulations on a couple of factual, reasoned comments. But understand, those facts go way over the heads of those who get their scientific data from Al Gore.....who learned all about climates while he was flunking out of divinity school!

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    #1.12 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:45 PM EDT

    I'll believe it ('s a warmer-than-average spring) when I don't need thermal underwear to go to work overnight in Charlotte (where the high is 46 degrees today and the low will be flirting with the record of 24 degrees). Our first weekend of spring will be even more miserable (it was actually a pretty nice day other being too damn cold) with more well below normal temperatures combined with a cold rain. I"ll welcome a warmer than average spring after the long, miserable winter we've had (although we haven't had any appreciable snow, that's not that unusual).

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    #1.13 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:53 PM EDT

    Digging up the earth for metals to make more wind turbines that kill birds is the answer?

    Oh.My.God. lol.

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    #1.14 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:50 PM EDT

    Who made climate change an emotional issue? Well...I think it was those who have been whining that it does not exist and don't want to have to consider that we need to change out ways.

    One way that certainly would help is getting the birth rate down.

    Go ahead and whine. I won't do you no good anyway.

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    #1.15 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:05 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarpgsbox24Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    oh more climate change(global warming) crap...they cant predict if its going to rain

    7 ice ages...been warming and cooling for millions of years...oh wait all you fanatics... if we are to believe scientists...earth was almost covered in water at one point ...maybe that is the norm and we are just heading back there. spin that

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    #1.16 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:39 PM EDT

    Bought a rain barrel last year to help water the garden, never got enough in it to reach the hose outlet.

    Oh well, might be a good year to put a parge coat on my foundation and waterproof it.

      #1.17 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:50 PM EDT

      Pedestrian.

      You laugh about the wind turbines killing birds?

      Please explain why a proposed wind farm in my state has a special permit to cause the deaths of up to 10 bald eagles a year?

      Also in California they actually lock the rotors at night so they do not kill birds and bats.

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      #1.18 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:53 PM EDT
      Gloria Becksvia FacebookDeleted

      I am going to make my own prediction....Wetter than normal summer with mild temperatures across much of the country. I also predict the media will completely ignore it.

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      #1.20 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:18 PM EDT

      Americans can DEPEND upon higher taxes this Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and especially the first of next year.

      And those tax increases will hit the Progressives' pocketbook also.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      My "weather" prediction: it will be blizzard conditions in the D.C. area this Spring when the Progressive try to increase the National Debt Limit to $ 25,000,000,000,000.

        #1.21 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:27 PM EDT

        @subnormal The wind farm got a permit because the bald eagle is protected and they would have had to shut down completely without it. It's a bureaucratic technicality that has been misquoted by the folks opposed to alternative energy sources. That said, 10 bald eagles is nothing compared to the number of eagles killed by human intrusion on their habitat, man made polution, pesticides. I once watched while a bald eagle made the mistake of landing on a high tension power line. Poof... no more eagle. Shall we take down all the power lines? The bird kill by wind generators has been blown all out of proportion by those who are determined to keep the oil companies in profit. Wind power is an effective source for power and has little or no impact on the environment.... until the oil companies figure out how to charge us for the wind.

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        #1.22 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:58 PM EDT

        the best time to plant grass seed is October, by springtime, the seed is well settled into the soil and has the best germination. Spring planted seed, usually ends up as liner for birds nests.

          #1.23 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:48 AM EDT

          In Illinois we are freezing. I say bring er on. And I think we need to start a rerouting water system. Where there is a drought route the flood waters to them. If we can reroute water from Georgia to feed fish in Florida we can reroute water for floods and droughts. Instead of adjusting dams we would adjust underground waterways.

            #1.24 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:46 AM EDT

            Subnormal, I laugh at your implication that wind turbines (i.e. green energy sources) kill more than drilling/mining coal/gas/oil. I think we both know that the body count is far higher when it comes to traditional fuel development, but please keep up the overblown drama regarding birds.

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            #1.25 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:13 PM EDT

            Subnormal- Where on earth did you get your fact that carbon dioxide can only hold so much heat? Why would it stop gaining heat?

            "Humans are causing climate change" is not an oversimplification if it doesn't address solutions. It is definitely simplified, but also true.

            Al Gore is a hypocrite. Boohoo. That doesn't mean that climate change isn't real. He may have emotionalized it, but you know what he did not do? Politicize it. He sounded plenty, perhaps too many, alarm bells. He did NOT tell you anything to the effect of "The liberals are lying so that they can steal money from you and be socialists!"

            The truth is that climate change is a problem, and we need to move away from oil usage with higher gas mileage(which republicans oppose), electric vehicle and battery research(which republicans oppose) and we need to move to renewable energy sources that include wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear, and many others. These need to be implemented in the most environmentally friendly areas. For example, solar in deserts, geothermal in mountains, and even wave energy along coasts.

            • 1 vote
            #1.26 - Tue Apr 2, 2013 3:33 PM EDT
            Reply

            ...and warmer than average summer and fall and winter. We get it!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:47 PM EDT
            Comment author avataruse your brainsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            NBC hasn't thrown a bone to incite the global warming zealots recently. Al Gore wants your $$. He's eying another private jet to fly between all his big mansions.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:48 PM EDT

            Sure. What do scientists know? Since they don't support your political view, must be a conspiracy by Al Gore.

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            #3.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:02 PM EDT

            You're an idiot as well as those who gave you a thumbs up.

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            #3.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:24 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarsubnormalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Do your own research on the conditions of our climate and form your own opinion. An opinion without knowledge is an emotion not logic.

            Al Gore has gotten filthy rich off of this. If he truly believed it he could do so much more than he has done. Have you ever looked at GM's old electric car? the thing was a total pile of crap.

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            #3.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:33 PM EDT

            Has it occurred to you that just because Al Gore is a hypocrite, it doesn't mean that climate change isn't real? And I'm sorry, but if everyone had to do their own research for everything, we would never make any progress. ALL science is build upon the work that came before.

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            #3.4 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:40 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarsubnormalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            FrugalDemocrat,

            So you are going to take the word of a known hypocrite as Gospel instead of looking up a couple of things on your own. This is known research, it is available on the Internet. Look up the different cycles of just the earth's orbit and tell me that would not effect our temperature? With only 11,000 years of data compared to cycles that take over 100,000 years how can we say that we are not seeing normal temperature swings?

            That is the point. Also the orientation of the earth to the sun changes, with the north facing more to the sun during some periods and less during others?

            Also our magnetic poles move, increase in strenght and decrease in strength. All of these changes effect our global temperatures.

            Back in the 60 and 70 they had talked about global cooling. So just within my life time we have totally switched from one extreme to the other. I am not saying that we should not control the amount of chemicals that we put into the air. I know for a fact that the air quality we have now where i live is better than when i was a kid. What i find frustrating is that we worry about what we do on a local level without any concern to what is happening on a global level.

              #3.5 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:57 PM EDT

              subnormal, Do you actually think that climate scientists are ignorant of solar cycles?? The time period that's relevant to humans is not 100,000 years or 10 million years. It's the 10,000 years, more or less, since the dawn of human civilization, and most importantly for most of us, the next 100 years. Over that time horizon, we see rising temperature and sea levels, the rate of which has increased since the industrial revolution. But go head and spin facts around your political beliefs. Your mind will twist and warp them into whatever makes you feel like a loyal member of your group.

              By the way, the discussion about global cooling was prompted by a study of ice cores taken from the Greenland ice cap that analyzed the recurrence pattern of ice ages. The BS you are repeating is straight from the talk radio crowd. To say that "we have totally switched from one extreme to the other" is, to put it bluntly, a lie which you choose to believe because it validates your convictions.

              • 2 votes
              #3.6 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:29 PM EDT

              Zealots? You're a drama queen, and probably proud of it from some unknown reason.

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              #3.7 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:30 PM EDT

              Joe mota,

              it is not a lie, i was alive when they talked about global cooling, actually they said another ice age was coming.

              What I am saying is that talking about the last 10,000 or 11,000 years without talking about the other cycles is not scientific. You have to look at all the factors that goes into our weather. Yes that does include the effects of man. But to say that everything is us without even discussing the other factors that goes into it, is not honest and is not good science. There also is evidence of civilizations before the last ice age. Did that cause global warming as well?
              I do not take talk radios views as my own, I do not watch any TV news any more, due to the simple fact they do not tell you the whole story. They only tell you the things that support their view point. I want facts and information so I can come to my own conclusion. That is why I looked up the information that is available about our different orbits, orientations and position in the galaxy. Did you know that sometimes our solar system is at the top of the gal-axial plane and at other times it is at the lower part?

              • 1 vote
              #3.8 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:50 PM EDT

              sub, I read the article when it was first published. I believe it was in Scientific American. It did not predict a coming ice age. The study found that the mean interglacial period over the past 4 ice ages is 11,500 years plus or minus 1500 years, I think the alpha level was 95%. It means that, according to the recent past, an ice age might be expected to begin sometime in the next 1500 to 2000 years, or so. Of course, global warming due to CO2 pollution has entered a new factor into the climate, so I don't think the assumptions hold any more.

              There were some journalists in the pop culture who fantasized that the report was predicting an ice age. But I don't pay attention to pop culture or politicians or pundits.

              What evidence of civilization before the last ice age, about 120,000 years ago are you claiming? Did you read something in National Enquirer?

              • 2 votes
              #3.9 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:35 PM EDT

              See, this is the problem subnormal, you don't really understand what you are talking about, you know bits and pieces, but that's not the same.

              Global cooling: First, it wasn't the community at large who were for that, it was a rather small minority of climatologists who suggested it, around 5-10% of those studying and researching if I remember right. So you are wrong there.

              Secondly, this is why global cooling was actually being considered; During this time there were virtually no regulations dealing with emissions. Because of this, there were huge amounts of particulate entering the atmosphere, the idea was that all this added soot and with the forecasted increase due to growth of industry/transportation/population would eventually become so much in the atmosphere that it would start blocking a significant amount of energy from the sun. This would cause cooling.

              However, the rest of the community at the time postulated that the increase in greenhouse gases would at minimum offset that energy decrease. Also, there were a fair amount of researchers at that time who also believed that the gases would overwhelm that loss of energy and still cause warming.

              So what happened? You saw the industrialized nations pass quite a few "clean air" reforms making the whole particulate angle a moot point, out air is far cleaner now. With that gone, there are no mechanisms for global cooling. Yes, you do have nations like the China and India going at it, but in all we are still better off than where we are in the 60's and 70's as a world.

              Perhaps you should actually do some more research. To get this very easily obtained history lesson wrong makes a lot of what you say suspect.

              Mitchell

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              #3.10 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:08 PM EDT

              Bravo Mitchell.

                #3.11 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:43 AM EDT
                Reply

                Warmer tham average spring?? Somebody has been drinking too much coffee or booze. The northern part of the country is breaking all kinds of records for a cold and very snowy spring.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#4 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:48 PM EDT

                I agree.

                27 Here Today

                23 Tonight

                Tomorrow 28/16

                Saturday 36/20

                Last year at this time we were 70's to 80's here in central US though.

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                #4.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:56 PM EDT

                Monday in Houston the temperature was 93, 5 degrees above the previous record high for the month.

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                #4.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:24 PM EDT

                You all apparently haven't seen next week's forecast. The southern half of the country, temps are forecasted to stay relatively constant, northern half, your going to see probably an average daytime temp increase of about 20 degrees by next Saturday.

                  #4.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:26 PM EDT

                  It's certainly frosty cold here in Ohio BUT it's not at all unusual. I remember searching for Easter eggs in the snow when I was a child. Spring has only begun so the fact that we still have Winter-like conditions, doesn't mean that this story is wrong. Personally, I try to follow the cues of local wildlife for an estimate of the upcoming season (a habit handed down to me from my Grandparents). The animals/ insects seem to know these things on some level. It's really kind of fascinating.

                  • 6 votes
                  #4.4 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:28 PM EDT

                  It is not coffee or booze, it is Kool-aid.

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.5 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:33 PM EDT

                  Eric,

                  20 degrees warmer would be our average for this time of year.

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                  #4.6 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:34 PM EDT

                  Tarzan 7, you said "The northern part of the country is breaking all kinds of records for a cold and very snowy spring.".......................... lol............................Spring just started YESTERDAY!

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.7 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:59 PM EDT

                  We just had 8 inches of snow on Tuesday where I live in MA and there's more predicted for next week. This is getting ridiculous.

                    #4.8 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:01 PM EDT

                    Yeah, we're ready to kill the groundhog. (Puxatawney Phil--your days are numbered!) It's supposed to be spring. I'm watching for him along the road. I'll run over him as soon as he's spotted. It's freezing here. (Ohio).

                    It's been my experience, if we have a long, wet winter, we tend to have a damper, cooler summer. Not always, but usually. That's from experience, not the weatherman.

                    Joke of the Day: Have you every eaten ground hog? If you have eaten sausage you have--ground hog.

                      #4.9 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:20 PM EDT

                      the last month that was below average temperature was February 1985, where do you get your information tarzan? The national weather service is counting 330 some odd months in a row of gradually increasing temperatures.

                        #4.10 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:53 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        In N WI their is still no sign of spring. The forecasts are the least accurate I've seen in decades. Must be nice to have a job where you can always be wrong & not get fired.

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                        Reply#5 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:51 PM EDT

                        Baltimore, Maryland, current temperature 36 with a chance of snow showers. Wid chill puts us in the twenties.

                        Prediction for March 24th PM rain or snow. And for March 25th rain or snow.

                        What spring??? It could be worse, I could live north of the Mason Dixon Line!!

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#6 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:02 PM EDT

                        A warmer Spring? Not here in the northeast.

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                        Reply#12 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:12 PM EDT

                        Agreed. Bring it on...

                          #12.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:32 PM EDT

                          Spring is literally only a day old. Give it a little time

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:42 PM EDT

                          Forecast is another week of cold here with more snow Saturday. If these forecasters think it's going to be a scorcher of a Spring we'll have a lot of catching up to do around here. We've had three 50F days since Christmas and 28" of snow so far this winter. I was playing golf in Omaha last January. Go figure!

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:40 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          Are they nuts? How can anyone go by their 'prediction' when they can't even see present reality!

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#13 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:12 PM EDT

                          Wish someone would shoot that Groundhog here in Pa.

                          • 1 vote
                          #13.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:09 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          The carbon tax goons are at it again.

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#14 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:13 PM EDT

                          Laura don't know nothing.

                            Reply#17 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:16 PM EDT

                            neutral el nino, la nino...the most I HAVE EVER SEEN...ok...... what 20 years of data..i dont recall the useage of el nino and la nino prior to the mid 80s if that...... Flooding in the upper midwest..

                            i thought the Miss. and Norther rivers were "empty" This sensationalism of the media, the weird naming of storms by the weather channel.... does anybody find it odd??? 6 INCHES OF SNOW IN MN.. really it does snow there. Even now.... Were so cold in New England..yes today only in the 30s ..but were a few degrees off the normal.....only 48 IT IS NOT SHORTS AND SANDALS, GRASS MOWING, PLANT FLOWERS... type weather.its the end of March!!!! I wish people would stop complaining, enjoy the seasons, enjoy the moment. We will all be saying its too hot, too humid, too smoggy..soon enough

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                            Reply#18 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:31 PM EDT

                            So true, dbus, people are people and essentially don't change...... Personally, I looking forward to some HHH

                            weather...

                              #18.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:38 PM EDT

                              We're in the 70's in California, with most of us hoping for more rain, it's too dry.

                                #18.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:34 PM EDT

                                @ joe 13, Weather is the only thing southern California has going for it.

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                                #18.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:06 PM EDT
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                                And when Summer rolls along, it will be a MUCH hotter Summer than average... and when Winter comes after Fall, it will be a MUCH colder than average... yes we get the point... Earth is now harboring extreme temperatures due to overpopulation ... wish the rest of World would catch on to this seriously.... =(

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                                Reply#19 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:31 PM EDT

                                It may be hotter than average. Where it may be hotter is what the question is. How much hotter? The scientists can't say for sure so they are only guessing.

                                  #19.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:12 PM EDT
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                                  ...

                                  If this does not convince the repugs about global warming, nothing will.

                                  .

                                  Biden in 2016.

                                  ...

                                    Reply#20 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:33 PM EDT

                                    Nothing New here

                                    give me a break, what exactly do you know about global warming?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #20.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:37 PM EDT

                                    ...

                                    Ice caps are melting, polar bears are dying, permafrost is melting, manatees are dying because of the red tide.

                                    What do you know ?

                                    .

                                    Biden in 2016.

                                    ...

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #20.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:45 PM EDT

                                    Biden will be like 80 something in 2017. Hillary will be a 70 something. McCain will still be a idiot. You can't have term limits if you keep voting them in?

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #20.3 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:56 PM EDT

                                    If what doesn't convince repugs? Forecasts that may or may not bear out is not scientific evidence, but simply opinions?

                                    What's an ice cap? Do you mean sea ice? Permafrost is melting? Yes both melt during the summer. Can you provide documentation that might show global warming is involved?

                                    Polar bears are dying? Actually they are thriving. Got proof otherwise?

                                    Red tide has not been conclusively linked to climate change. Got proof otherwise?

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                                    #20.4 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:22 PM EDT

                                    Rex, are you suggesting that what used to be called the Arctic ice cap is not shrinking? Are you suggesting that permafrost is not decline (that is, the amount of ground Permanently frozen is declining).

                                    Are you pretending that the dramatic decline in the summer minimum in Arctic sea ice extent over the past 30 years is caused by something other than global warming?

                                    Do you have any proof that the climate is not getting warmer??

                                    Do you have any proof that increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere do not accelerate the rate of global warming?

                                    Do you have any proof that lowering tax rates results in an increase of jobs for working Americans?

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                                    #20.5 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:29 PM EDT

                                    Joe mota,

                                    Yes there is tons of data showing that lowering tax rates increases the available jobs. I mean really how could it be otherwise? If people have more money to spend and buy things, then there needs to be more people to build those things and provide them.

                                    Yes the northern ice pack has fluctuated. The southern ice pack has increased. Now what would cause that?

                                    You do know that polar bears can swim right?

                                    So your solution is to go back to hunter gatherers?

                                    Do you have proof the raising taxes on everyone improves the job market?

                                      #20.6 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:02 PM EDT

                                      sub, as expected you were unable to show any evidence that lowering tax rates increases jobs. The Antarctic land mass is losing ice at the equivalent rate of around 1 mm/year rise in sea level. Sea ice extent in Antarctica flucuates due to currents. In the Arctic, it's decreasing because of warming temperatures.

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                                      #20.7 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:21 PM EDT
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                                      I see we have a bunch of rocket scientists leaving comments. Today is the second day of Spring. There are two days less than 3 months to go.

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                                      Reply#21 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:35 PM EDT

                                      It just depends on where you live. Pacific Northwest is a little cooler this year than normal and it's expected to stay that way through April. BTW...we have a bumper crop of snow in the Cascade mountains and it's still coming down. Closing the mountain passes this time of year for avalanche control isn't normal but that's what's happening. Like I said, it just depends on where you live.

                                        Reply#22 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:36 PM EDT

                                        Hey,you guys need to remember...that without much snow on the ground,the fire season really heats up.The snow pack provides the flora and fauna with much needed moisture, and some protection from the burning rays of *whatever*.

                                        Around the great lakes, we may grumble about how much snow gets dumped on us, but I'd rather put up with snow till the middle/end of April, than an extended fire season. At least you've got a fighting chance with digging out from a snowstorm, but you can't outrun a fire. I may not like snow as much as I did as a kid..but given the choice--a shorter summer is infinitely better than more wildfires.

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                                        #22.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:50 PM EDT
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                                        here in Colo. last weekend we had temps. in the 60's and 70's this weekend it is supposed to be snowing and in the 20's....yeah that sounds about right....

                                          Reply#23 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:39 PM EDT

                                          It's called "Springtime in the Rockies".

                                            #23.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:23 PM EDT
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                                            Well , I made a hell of a lot more money snow plowing this winter than last , and it shows no sign of letting up here in the great lakes ...

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                                            Reply#24 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:42 PM EDT

                                            globle warming ???

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                                            Reply#25 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:50 PM EDT

                                            Anybody read the Senate report on global warming? Or the recent and highly respected Norwegian study that calls into question some of the so-called conclusive evidence? Or can anybody explain why the Southern hemisphere has been experiencing some of the coldest temps on record for nearly a decade? Could that be why James Lovelock, founder of the Gaia theory and very vocal proponent of GW, recently recanted some of his remarks and admitting people like himself and Al Gore have been alarmists. He still believes the Earth is warming, but much slower than previously thought. Has anybody here read some of the increasing number of material, both scientific and in the popular press, of mounting evidence that man-made warming has forestalled an imminent ice age (right on schedule) by a few decades?

                                            Anybody who says the science is conclusive does not understand science. It is about inquiry, asking why, challenging/supporting prevailing "conclusions." It's not about shaming somebody for asking challenging questions. The very laws of physics are challenged by the revelation that the theory of relativity may not be supported because light is not be the absolute measure of speed.

                                            There are three basic challenges to global warming research. Is it conclusive the Earth is indeed warming? Is it conclusive that humans are the primary cause? Is it conclusive that a warmer Earth is a bad thing? None of these assertions are conclusive because the evidence is either not strong enough, misinterpreted either inadvertently or deliberately or enough counter evidence exists to warrant further research. Politics unfortunately drives the search for these answers more than science. As far as predicting a warmer spring, these people have a track record not much better than the Farmer's Almanac. Just sayin...

                                              Reply#26 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:50 PM EDT

                                              One would think you could reference an actual credible source for this news.

                                              Well?

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                                              #26.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:04 PM EDT
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                                              What a bunch of phucking liberal sheep. Global warming my ass. There's no end in sight for the cool weather that's gripping the mid west. At least through the first couple weeks in April. And with all the late snows, pretty much saves us from further drought here in the upper mid west. Cleaned off the roof the other day and didn't even need a ladder to come down. Just stepped onto the snow bank.

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                                              Reply#27 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:57 PM EDT

                                              Well, gee, that just seals it, right? 98% of all climate scientists on Earth simply never saw the snow on your roof.

                                              Duh.

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                                              #27.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:02 PM EDT

                                              I thought it was just 97%...who have similar "opinions" But opinions are not real science. They are still too many gaps in the climate change theory and the models are flawed.

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                                              #27.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:26 PM EDT

                                              Rex,

                                              That is simply not true. You are mistaken.

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                                              #27.3 - Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:04 AM EDT
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                                              Yeah Okay, That's why I'm sitting here freezing my back side off watching it snow...

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                                              Reply#28 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:00 PM EDT

                                              They changed global warming to climate change so it can cover anything other than average.

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                                              Reply#29 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:11 PM EDT

                                              But even if it is not average all the time doesn't mean it is climate change or global warming.

                                                #29.1 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:28 PM EDT

                                                Actually, I'm not a denier of climate change/global warming though I don't feel qualified to give a reason for the changing. I find it odd though that where I live in N WI we are experiencing the coldest March since 1932. In my 58 winters we have the most snow I remember on the ground at this time of year. Last year it was in the 60s & 70s at this time which was the warmest I had ever seen. It is very difficult to plan for the needs of my livestock under such unpredictable & extreme circumstances.

                                                  #29.2 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:01 PM EDT
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                                                  Second coldest March since 1969 (so far). It might yet reach first coldest.

                                                  And we are supposed to believe when they say Spring will be warmer than usual?

                                                  Check out the forecast for the next 10 days (the rest of March).

                                                  http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/us-second-coldest-march-since-1969-so-far/

                                                    Reply#30 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:12 PM EDT

                                                    US weather prediction is lower than 50% for a 5 day forecast. The climate models said it was supposed to be 20 degrees warmer this year! LAUGH! Weather and Climate are NOT understood; the models are terrible. You can't believe tomorrow's forecast! It may be correct 60% of the time.

                                                      Reply#31 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:13 PM EDT

                                                      Reefer Madness. That's what the global warming crap reminds me of.

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                                                      Reply#32 - Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:20 PM EDT
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