
Dan Durda
A 130-foot-meteor created the mile-wide Meteor Crater in Arizona. The comet proposed to have impacted life in North America was significantly larger, but no crater indicating its collision has been found.
By Nola Taylor Redd
LiveScience
A comet crashing into the Earth some 13,000 years ago was thought to have spelled doom to a group of early North American people, and possibly the extinction of ice age beasts in the region.
But the space rock was wrongly accused, according to a group of 16 scientists in fields ranging from archaeology to crystallography to physics, who have offered counterevidence to the existence of such a collision.
"Despite more than four years of trying by many qualified researchers, no unambiguous evidence has been found (of such an event)," Mark Boslough, a physicist at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico, told LiveScience.
"That lack of evidence is therefore evidence of absence."
Changing times
Almost 13,000 years ago, a prehistoric Paleo-Indian group known as the Clovis culture suffered its demise at the same time the region underwent significant climate cooling known as the Younger Dryas. Animals such as ground sloths, camels and mammoths were wiped out in North America around the same period. [Wipe Out: The 10 Most Mysterious Extinctions]
In 2007, a team of scientists led by Richard Firestone of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California suggested these changes were the result of a collision or explosion of an enormous comet or asteroid, pointing to a carbon-rich black layer at a number of sites across North America. The theory has remained controversial, with no sign of a crater that would have resulted from such an impact.
"If a four-kilometer (2.5-mile) comet had broken up over North America only 12.9 thousand years ago, it is certain that it would have left an unambiguous impact crater or craters, as well as unambiguous shocked materials," Boslough said.
Boslough, who has spent decades studying the effects of comet and asteroid collisions, was part of a team that predicted the visibility of plumes from the impact of the 1994 Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet with Jupiter.
"Comet impacts may be low enough in density not to leave craters," Firestone told LiveScience by email.
He also points to independent research by William Napier at the University of Cardiff in the United Kingdom that indicates such explosions could have come from a debris trail created by Comet Encke, which also would not have left a crater.
A large rock plunging into the Earth's atmosphere may detonate in the air without coming into contact with the ground. Such an explosion occurred in Siberia in the early 20th century; the explosive energy of the so-called Tunguska event was more than 1,000 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
"No crater was formed at Tunguska, or the recent Russian impact," Firestone said.
But Boslough said this math doesn't add up. The object responsible for the Tunguska event was very small, about 130 to 160 feet (40 to 50 meters) wide, while the recent explosion over Russia was smaller, about 56 feet (17 meters). The proposed North American space rock linked with the Clovis demise is estimated to have been closer to 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) across.
"The physics doesn't support the idea of something that big exploding in the air," he said, noting that the original research team doesn't provide any explanation or models for how such a breakup might occur. [The 10 Greatest Explosions Ever]
If such a large object crashed into the Earth, the resulting crater would be too large to miss, particularly when it was only a few thousand years old, Boslough said. He pointed to Meteor Crater in Arizona, which is three times as old and formed by an object "a million times smaller in terms of explosive energy."
"Meteor Crater is an unambiguous impact crater with unambiguous shocked minerals," Boslough said. If a 2.5-mile comet had broken into pieces, it could have made a million Meteor Craters, he added.
Firestone argued that water or ice could have absorbed the impact, possibly leaving behind no crater.
Boslough disagreed. Even if the comet had plunged into the ice sheet covering much of NorthAmerica, the crater formed beneath it would still be sizable. "We wouldn't be able to miss that right now — it would be obvious," Boslough said.
The arguments and evidence against the impact were published in the December 2012 American Geophysical Union monograph.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
Powerful impacts are Boslough's field, but the other 15 scientists working on the paper offered up other sources of counterevidence for the existence of a collision.
"We all independently came to the conclusion that the evidence doesn't support a Younger Dryas impact," Boslough said. [Asteroid Basics: A Space Rock Quiz]
"We all came to this based on our own very narrow piece of the puzzle."
For instance, the initial team studying the event announced the discovery of a carbon-rich black layer, colloquially known as a "black mat," at a number of sites in North America. Containing charcoal, soot and nanodiamonds, such material could be formed by a violent collision.
But this isn't the only possible source.
"The things they call impact markers are not necessarily indicators of high-pressure shocks," Boslough said. "There are other processes that potentially could have formed them."
Speaking of the black mat found in central Mexico, Firestone said, "Boslough is correct that there are other black mats, but these are dated to 12,900 years ago at the time of impact." He points to independent research published this fall that located hundreds to thousands of samples.
However, radiocarbon dating of one of the sites in Gainey, Mich., suggested its samples were contaminated.
Melted rock formations and microscopic diamonds found in a lake in Central Mexico last year were also suggested as evidence for the collision, but Boslough'steam disagrees with the age of the sediment layer in the region.
Boslough said the standard for indicating a strong shock occurred is pretty high in the impact community, and the findings by the original team don't meet them. Nor do they offer up any physical models that propose how an impact or airburst would have occurred — and the ones Boslough has run just don't pan out.
"It's really a stretch to claim that there was this large impact event with no crater and no unambiguous shock material, because large impacts are such rare events," Boslough said.
"When somebody is making a claim that something extraordinary happened, something out of the ordinary and with a very low probability, and they have ambiguous evidence, then the default is that it didn't happen," he continued.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
Firestone stands firm.
"All the evidence has now been confirmed by others," he said.
"Boslough has no data supporting his arguments, and ignores the counter arguments of Bill Napier."
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The reason they cannot find the craters is because the nuclei of those comets and meteors are vacuum energy, or dark energy. It is why the russian meteor only left a SINKHOLE in the ice and no 10,000 tons of meteorite debris. It is also what triggered the global cooling, the nucleus pulled a vacuum in the gasseous atmosphere as it orbited.
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Chem - well, what can I say, you are completely wrong. It doesn't matter what the comet or meteor would be made of, because the energy itself would have made a huge crater. Now you are going to say that because it was dark matter it didn't react with the ground...except than how to explain it reacting with the air and heating up enough to explode?
Your comment makes no sense. Thanks for playing, here is your copy of the home game...
Odd all this extinction (just by co-incidence) happened at around the same time as the arrival of asain groups across the ice bridge .... maybe it would be worth while to examine that association closer?
This article is the epitome of human denialism. It is very easy to postulate how this large of a comet could have done this damage without leaving any telltale mark on the surface of the Earth. A very low angle of incidence to the Earth was all that was required. It probably came in low over the Pacific (or Atlantic) Ocean and initially exploded upwards and to both sides as it approached the Pacific (or Atlantic) coast of North America. Some of these comet fragments flew high and didn't reenter the Earths atmosphere until they reached the other side of the continent. Others flew moderately high and reentered midway. Others simply flew sideways and forwards and reentered on the Pacific Coast. The result was that the entire North American continent was burned up in a single event. To sum it all up, this 2.5 mile wide comet basically exploded into hundreds of Tunguska comets which basically spread out over most of the North American continent but never reached Earth. There, you all finally have your verbal explanation (the History Channel provided a very graphic explanation), and may history forever record your unprofessional denialism in 'no uncertain terms'. - Rick Carter
Just so everyone has the full benefit of explanation, here is the History Channel program on this event, so you all can see and judge for yourselves. See link below. - RC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85UBpEcgc8g
The closest thing that I can think of which could recreate the dispersal pattern of the Clovis Comet is the pattern you would get from the explosion of a rocket propelled grenade impacting a flat surface while traveling almost parallel to the ground, except this 3 mile Clovis comet impacted and exploded high up in the Earth's atmosphere. But ultimately even that doesn't do it justice because each one of the many fragments would then become an exploding Tunguska comet downrange, which is estimated to have be roughly 140 to 160 feet in diameter, with an explosive yield of 8 to 12 megatons. Do you have any idea how many Tunguska comets you can fit inside a Clovis comet 3 miles in diameter? Now imagine how many of those Tunguska comets fit inside of this 30 mile wide comet which is barreling toward Mars. There are trillions of megatons of energy in the massive comet which is headed toward Mars right now (arrival date October 19, 2014), and if that comet ricochetes off of the surface of Mars (or strikes one of the moons of Mars), the high velocity debris field which will be created could easily annihilate all complex life here on Earth. - RC
finally, a plausible explanation. almost un-unravel-able...
The Clovis-era comet around 13,000 years ago crashed into the Laurentide ice sheet which was 2 miles thick. The huge blocks of ice thrown up in the air caused the formation of the Carolina bays and other pock-mark gouges on the North American continent south of the impact zone, which was probably in the vicinity of the Great Lakes. To complicate the matter further, the energy released by the impact event triggered an earth crustal displacement whereby the north pole shifted its position by approximately 2,000 miles. Prior to the event the north pole was located in the middle of the Hudson Bay. There is a huge amount of evidence for both these catastrophic events. Refer to Firestone's The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes and Hapgood's The Path of the Pole.
Science may get a chance to see a truly big Comet collision that will give us tremendous experience in the after affects of such a collision with a front seat view of the events using the robotic explorers on Mars and in orbit. The Comet C/2013 A1 (Siding Spring) is due to come very close--within 63,000 miles--and with only 74 days of data to determine the path it's not known yet with enough precision to rule out a collision.
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/26/17107085-comet-just-might-hit-mars-in-2014?lite
But if it hits it will be the event of the Millenium. Heck, it will be the event of the Eons.
It should be clearly visible explosion in broad daylight visible from the southern hemisphere (near Australia) if it hits.
The energy released will be over 20 billion megatons. Compare that to the asteroid that hit in the Arizona desert at 40,000 mph with a size of about 160 feet (almost same as Tunguska event) which left a 570 foot by 4000 feet crater. The crater on Mars would be astounding and measured in thousands of miles and tens of miles deep because the Comet is 30 miles across and traveling at 126,000 mph when it hits.
To put that in perspective--the Shoemaker 9 comet which hit Jupiter was 9.3 miles--33.5 times less volume than this Comet headed towards Mars and that Shoemaker 9 comet left a scar on Jupiter bigger than the Earth. I can't even imagine what this could do to Mars--possibly even blast the planet apart.
I am certain that there are plenty of places an impactor could be hiding, BUT I have NO desire to see the perpetuation of a clovis meteor theory. First I agree, the absence of some key indicators is most compelling. yes absence of evidence is not absence of fact, but things just don't add up, errr or need some more s'plaining. 10-15k bc was a catalyzing time for humanity on a global basis. Fire and stone tools, communities and language, flight and sailing (okay, not flight, just falling and sailing), migration and the wars that were greater than regional. Wars that lasted as long as time, as well as the final extinguishment (or adsorption, ok, assimilation) of the Neanderthals, and probably other species we have yet to recognize. Our first cognition that climate is not stasis, and thus a reason for migration beyond the following of nature's patterns. And Money, the root of all the evils. We ketchup-ed the big elephants off the planet. Burgers. Meanwhile, we fought with each other over everything, honing our skills of the scorched earth policy, tactics that have not yet been fully put into play to this day, not to say we won't, just that if we could of burned whole continents in 13bc, we surely would have. If there was a great flood, and just prior an opposing army had figured a way to willow away a natural earthen dam, do you all think they would not of? Perhaps the earth was just lucky for it's little ice age, as man, for the first time, was beginning his true domination of the planet. Perhaps it palled our steadfast advancement for a time. A comet? not so sure. We went looking for those types of things. There is evidence that people set out to investigate Krakatoa for example. I think we would of set out to find a clovis killing meteor, but to the people that became the incas or mayas or apache or one of many other civilizations, they knew what happened to the clovis people. My guess is war and migration. We see it today in syria don't we? or in our own natural culture as we run around looking for better fast food establishments. Our species does not wander the way it once did, but if the clovis people had a chance to walk to McDonald's, they would of hit the dusty trail today just to be there by friday. I contend burgers or lack there of, did 'em in.